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My favorite part has to be the headlights which are recessed they're fold out headlights, but they fold down and they're, not hidden at all. It's just kind of like somebody's just really freaking out over something or like those people that can pop their eyes out of their sockets. You know the champ kim goodman, the challenger keith smith, go welcome to hoover's garage, the dumbest automotive channel in all of youtube, and this is my latest purchase a 1988 porsche 928s4 with only 43 000 miles on a day, 5 speed manual transmission and a really cool Color cassie red one of my favorite colors from this era of porsche with a burgundy interior, it's in great shape - and i believe this is the last vintage porsche that is really worth buying. Everything else is blown up to such stupid proportions, or it doesn't offer that great of a driving experience that this really is it for now for now, but i bought this thing after a bring a trailer auction where i bid on it, it didn't meet reserve on That huge platform at 28 000 - i was able to make a deal afterwards for a little bit more, but i'll talk about why.
I don't think this car met its reserve in a little bit, but first, let's get into the porsche 928 history. This thing started in the late 1970s had a long 20-year, production run and it was designed to replace the 911. now doug demiro, who is formerly my daddy, now he's a real daddy. Now, congratulations verified this story years ago that porsche had planned to end the 911..
This was its replacement, people were dejected, sales were slowing down, and some genius executive at a meeting with a board showing all the production of porsches showing 911 was inning, took a marker and continued off the board into the wall and into eternity which happened. Obviously, the 911 has continued. The 928 died in the late 1990s with the gts and the 928 was kind of the unwanted stepchild for many many years until very recently, the gts being the exception nowadays, a comparable card to this would be almost a hundred thousand dollars. If it were a gts which to me it's absolutely not worth it, along with other classic porsches, let's go over my home porsche ownership history in the short time of this channel five, six years or so, starting with apollo 911, which you know is 9 500 for Running and driving 911.
that's nonexistent nowadays, of course, i've dumped way too much money into ls swapping it. But after that i had a 1988 3.2 carrera that i bought for upper 30s. I think 37 000. I spent a few grand on it and sold it for a little less than what i paid for it.
That car is probably worth 50 000 now. I also had a 996 turbo that had 70 000 miles on it, or so i bought it on bring a trailer for 36 thousand dollars, the bottom on that's probably 50, 60 000 and up. Thank you. Magnus walker for buying a 996 and telling everybody it's okay to like those cars, because now the 996 totally stupid.
I had plenty of those cards now they are 30, 40. 000 up for you know normal examples with a little less than 100 000 miles. Air cool 911s from this era of porsche are just absolutely stupid. Something like this with the same miles, the same color would be well over a hundred thousand dollars if it were a 911 rather than a 928 and then, of course, the vintage cars, the pre-impact 911s and the 356s have always been high, but they offer the driving Experience so kind of like a beetle. In my opinion, this is it. This is the last vintage porsche really worth buying. The 928 gts, like i said, is too expensive. The older ones well, they're too slow 200 and something horsepower in a big old vehicle like this.
Not very exciting uh, despite some prices getting really high there, including the risky business 928 that sold at barrett-jackson for almost two million dollars. The one driven by tom cruise is absolutely insane. It kind of woke people up to these 928s and i see the prices kind of ratcheting up and up and up so really. If you want one buy it, while you still can, but i really think the s4 is the one to buy, because this one 315 horsepower you got a modern four-speed automatic or a very nice dogleg 5-speed manual.
It is a very comfortable gt cruiser that offers a very modern but very different experience than say a 911 of this era, and that's why i like it so much. It's amazing that i'd never owned one of these back when they were chief back in the period. I was kind of scared of the high maintenance people talk about how crazy stupid the maintenance, because this thing has a timing belt and such but of course, nowadays it's not a big deal we'll get into that in a little bit, but for around 30 000 or Less unless you get a 996 that has a lot of miles on it. This is really it and i do think it is a fantastic buy for now now i know some porsche enthusiasts they're screaming at the monitor right now, tyler there's other cool, cheap porsches out there other than this and yeah.
The 944 is cool, but it has half the horsepower of this, and a 944 turbo has completely blown up. That's now a 40 50 000 car for something with this kind of miles on it just absolutely crazy. The 924 is too slow, not special enough. The 1914 also going up in value pretty slow unless it's the 600 one.
Those are skyrocketing in value. This is really it and i was so happy to get it, especially in this color combo, but you would think even on bring a trailer with this much exposure. It would bring more than this say 40, something thousand dollars, but this one has sort of a weird story, which is why i like it. It's also a really weird car, which is why i like it so much so, let's start a tour of this thing, starting with a really long production of these things, yeah it's not as long as the 911, which has had many different iterations but 20 years on.
Basically, one chassis of car is a very long time and my favorite part has to be the headlights which are recessed they're fold out headlights, but they fold down and they're, not hidden at all. It's just kind of like somebody's just really freaking out over something or like those people that can pop their eyes out of their sockets. You know look at that, just so freaking cool that they recess away for aerodynamics, but pop out like that, like a frog, i've always just been fascinated by that. Ever since i was a kid and my neighbor across the street, his dad had one or two or now several 928's. He drove these and toyota. Prep is still to this day the headlights so darn cool the whole shape of this car supposed to be kind of a shark, but a gt car. It's just weird, but it's aged so well in my opinion, and the s4 really does a good job of sort of updating the look to make it a little more modern. You know the phone dial wheels as they called them were cool, but these flat edged.
You don't see them all polished up and nice like this. They do look really really nice. The spoiler does a good job, breaking up the swoopiness and sort of the awkwardness of this rear. Three quarters window here, which is enormously big in a strange shape.
No other car has a rear side window like that, of course, it's a hatchback with four seats and this color combo. This cassie red is just awesome with the burgundy interior. I was so happy to find one in this color because the interior lots of burgundy in here, but there is one thing: maybe that might not be stock. I'm not sure.
That's the steering wheel cover here or the horn cover. If you will, they put the porsche badge kind of raised up like it's a wart or a pimple or something i want to pop it, but it won't pop. I seriously doubt that's factory, maybe some porsche expert can tell me if it is or not, but i do think this is here the door cards are, i think the porsche script is original, but the seats in this thing they are so nice and comfortable way, more Comfortable than a911, because this is a cross-country gt car and it has a lot more creature comforts you see, we have vents here, one two, three, four, five six and then the rear has four vents on their own, which is absolutely insane the rear passengers even have A sun visor, which makes no sense because that's that's basically right in their face - maybe it's just for the driver, i'm not sure because of this giant window, to do that. But there is a sun visor back here.
The seats also fold down flat, where you have a really full cargo area, which you cannot do on a 911 since the engine is in the back this one. The transmission is mounted in the back. It's a trans axle with a torque tube going along here to the v8 engine, we'll look under the hood in a little bit, but look at this wild interior. You have two different control: knobs for the climate control, two different fans.
You have the window controls which are not far enough away from the sunroof, so you can accidentally pop. The sunroof looks like the rear wiper here, but this button doesn't do anything. The other side of the windows - you can see this one is a five-speed manual, but it actually didn't start life as a five-speed manual. That's what made this car kind of weird and kind of cheap, because it really scared off the purist, because somebody swapped a five-speed manual on this thing, but they were completely crazy and spent almost eighteen thousand dollars doing it. Eighteen thousand dollars to do it perfectly to do it right and there's really no differentiating this thing from an automatic transmission car which they're pretty good cars themselves. The early ones were three speeds, not as good. The four seed was much better, but still a slush box. The only thing that you can tell is it still has in the tachometer the indicators for the automatic transmission which you can see.
They went so crazy on the detail. When you put this thing in reverse, it still lights up the r light and turns on the reverse light so that all still works. I love these 80s cars with this cockpit kind of fighter jet illuminated lamps. Here you can see the exclamation point.
There's another warning down here for the parking brake being set. The engine not running. This is for the door locks which are making insane noises right now being power operated. Well then also they make the manual knob and they're so overkill here, there's so many overkill things.
The knobs here all circular for the lights, but then these are push buttons for the fogs. This is the odometer reset, which you see. I just reset the odometer there. You have memory seating that is mounted sideways, which is really weird, and then the sunroof is also very very strange.
It is a super super small opening. I mean ridiculously small in the opening, but one other touch that somebody spent a lot of money on. This is the first time me ever using it. It's awesome.
Is this vintage porsche stereo here you can see when it's turned off. It looks like a factory stereo. This looks like a normal, led display, but turned on you have a modern bluetooth, stereo a slot for an sd card. You could even get navigation with this thing, which this one has now.
This radio is like 1200 1400, that somebody opted to install on this thing. So somebody was clearly nuts manual swapping it, along with all the other maintenance on this thing and adding this radio. But that's one thing that brought down a lot of people on the 928 is the maintenance. It was kind of like a ferrari with a belt service.
A few other things before we get out and look at the engine, though you see the instrument binnacle, the whole thing moves when you move it up and down so everything that gauges. All of it is in one piece which is just so cool and weird, but it really does make sense. You also have a little coin slot down here, but let's look under the hood. I mean think how mad people were 40 years ago when they said this was the 911 replacement they had. The air cooled rear mounted engine and instead you get a big old v8. This one. The s4 is a 5 liter v8 a little over 300 horsepower and it has a really cool presentation. I really like what they did with the intakes here, just a really cool presentation, but everything is packed, really really tight in here and you do have a timing belt that needs to be serviced regularly, just like a ferrari, and people really really didn't like that.
But it's not like say a 355 or a 348 where the engine has to come out. It's more like the 456, which this car at a fraction of the price. You get probably eighty percent of what the ferrari four five six could do. A nice gt four seat car, not a v12 and a gated six speed, but a v8 a really cool shape, and these were incredibly popular when they were new, they sold really well.
You saw him in movies all over the place, scarface risky business. Of course, this was the car that porsha needed at the time. Now it didn't say porsche when it came to sales. Obviously, there's the boxster, the cayenne that came later and, of course, the panamera, but this was a more practical, more usable, everyday gentleman's express porsche that porsche really needed to make to survive, but i don't think they compromised on anything now as far as defects on mine.
Obviously, being an automatic car that was a big ding on it, why porsche piers didn't want it and crazily it sold for less than say something with 40 000 miles like this, and an automatic would have sold for it. They had just left it alone. It was really weird, but also the other reason. I think the pictures kind of hurt it because the photos were taken sort of in a dark parking garage that made for really cool shots, but not very confidence inspiring when it comes to looking at a car for sales.
Getting photos in the dark kind of gives. A shady vibe, but the seller wasn't shady at all. It's actually a very nice car and he immediately took the money and bought a 944 turbo, which i mean i guess, but i would rather have this thing as far as defects go it's mostly just from age, but you can see the bottom of the bumper has A crack right here which can be fixed, really little dings and things throughout the front bumper to where that can be repainted. Hopefully i can get a good match there with van gogh, but also both fogs need to replace they've taken some hits over the years, but still a great deal for a total icon.
In my opinion - and i hadn't driven one in many many years - and it wasn't an s4 - and i didn't expect to like it as much as i do. This thing is wonderful to drive which we are going to do right now, i'll close the sunroof just for better sound and shadows, but it unfortunately makes kind of a farting noise when you close it somewhat amusing, but it works now. I can pull out and actually get on this thing a little bit with 315 horsepower. It is absolutely plenty it's fun. I mean by modern standards, it's not fast, but it is fun enough to be engaging where you feel some excitement. When you put the pedal down - and you don't have to worry about a modern honda, civic beating you at a stop light - you know now this porsche does feel very well put together, but there is one annoying rattle in the door around the door lock area that Needs to be fixed, but the quality overall does seem pretty nice for the era. It is really good, say it's not a ferrari 456 or something of that quality, but the price. This was a 70 000 car back in the 80s, which was more than say the average price of a house in the midwest.
So you got a lot and now it is a great value. One of the last now i can downshift here in the dog leg, which is weird down left, is first to get onto the highway or up middle and second give it. The beans might have a little exhaust leak, but we're already quite a bit over the speed limit there and not even to the bottom of the on-ramp, so pretty good in the acceleration department and the wind noise, not bad. This feels like a much more modern car in that sense other than this annoying rattle right here.
This is a really nice comfy autobahn, 150 mile per hour, all day, long cruiser or something you could take cross country nowadays, since there's no 928 porsche parts on the shell, probably not something i would do with relative confidence. But these cars don't have the snafus of say, 911s of modern age, where they have like little things in the engine that blow up like ims, bearings or cylinder scoring or the bmws with their cooling system, this absolute crap and their engine defects. This thing was just higher on the maintenance perspective, but not something you know really catastrophic. As far as i know, with these s4s great power, i mean this thing has more horsepower than a 996 911 when it was introduced in the late 90s, this thing's 10 years older, and it has more power, maybe not faster, but that seat of the pants once You're already moving kind of power, it does feel faster, but it's not all about that.
Like i said this is a great comfy cruiser, and that's probably why i like it the most the seats are endlessly adjustable. The climate control keeps you comfortable. This modern stereo with all the speakers in the doors, is actually really good, so this is a car i actually want to hop in and drive. I don't have to be in a mood like say when i want to drive the 911 turbo, the 74 carrera with the turbo engine, where it is a very uh kind of scary.
They call them widowmakers. Obviously, that kind of experience where you really have to pay attention and be in the mood for a car like that pretty brutal other than me wanting to pop this pimple in the steering wheel all the time. I do really like the experience yes and parking. This thing the sunlight and seeing the color, you definitely look back at it in the parking lot as you walk away from it. Oh i forgot to mention the smell too. The smell is so good in these old porsches. My dad had them. When i was a kid a few of them so that smell the strongest one tied to memory just brings me back only 47 000 miles.
So not enough people have farted in here yet to cancel it out, but also the color, obviously here in the sunlight, so cool, so many porsches are silver or black. It's not very exciting. This one really really cool, so this totally makes up for my last bring a trailer purchase. The super bird which wasn't all that bad, just quite tumultuous and not as described this one showed up more or less exactly as described.
I imagine the suspension will need a few bushings and rattles and things corrected, but nothing earth chattering. I hope, but next we'll head up to the car wizard and see what he has to say and check out all the projects but welcome to the garage little fella. I'm so happy. I was able to pick up one of these while i still could and really, if you're, wanting a vintage porsche and you're crying about the values being so insane.
Well here it is right here this is it. Thank you so much for watching.