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Hey get the is down welcome to movies garage, the dumbest automotive channel in all of youtube and when we last left off in this driveway, i purchased three cars on black friday. Well, uh sort of one was a prank on urination bob buying that 348 that i didn't need, because i already had one and he dreamed of owning that car and now he has it. But i got two very very nice cars, one, a 2006 aston martin db9. Only 25 000 miles doesn't seem like it needs much uh, but this was the car that was very needy, but the one i have been after for years is very cool, a 1974 porsche 911 carrera, and this is the real deal, a real 74 carrera in its Factory orange color, but it has led a very interesting life now.
The line 11 has been around for well 60 years now, and the shape is basically the same as it was well today, as it was 60 years ago. But the most desirable of the bunch is definitely the early cars, they call the pre-impact bumper cars and one of the most desirable ones out of that was the 73 911 carrera rs, which had a 2.7 liter engine. Now this is a 1974 and it was the first year of the impact bumper as they called it, because in the us we had the mandates for the bumpers that could absorb impact from pedestrians or whatever people thought that that wasn't as pretty and why you see So many like this 74 having some aftermarket bumper set up to hide the fact that it is an impact bumper car but being a carrera. It still got that 2.7 liter engine that the 73 had the exact same in the back when this car was originally built.
New but then it had a crazy, crazy life. Now you see the sticker back here. The goodwood festival of speed, i'm told by my friend, rob this car actually raced at goodwood, along with a lot of other places. Uh, the guy's family crest was in a plaque here.
I think he was a irish or something like that driving a german car, but this is full out race car. As you can see, we have a roll cage, no back seat. Racing seats still has carpet, but still very much a race, car and well uh, somewhat original and teddy shape in here seats super uncomfortable, but once again i've bought myself another race car, but the body is very nice very solid. Like i said this is the factory original color, so it's really special in that sense and being a 74 carrera.
If this were a numbers matching original car, these things are selling in upwards of two hundred thousand dollars nowadays. But this one was the farthest thing from a numbers: matching 74 carrera in the world, because in the back the previous owner rob my friend bought. It had a different engine in it, not the original 2.7 because it had been raced and blown up probably had two or three different engines in it in its lifetime before him, but 20 years ago he sourced this motor from a 76 930 turbo. So this thing a narrow body car - has a turbo motor in the back, which makes it absolutely bonkers insane.
It also makes it pretty bonkers impractical, because these turbo cars, which i drove this one years ago when it was working, the power, comes on very suddenly and it just whips. You back super fun, but it is temperamental and it has given rob a lot of problems over the years which, even though it is super impractical and been pretty unreliable for the previous owner, it is so cool to have that crazy motor in the back. But it is quite valuable which leads me to the other hand, which uh i could sell it, and that would go a long ways towards getting a modern engine in here and a lot more practicality. I mean this thing is so crazy that it's melting, the back bumper, just because of all the heat that it puts off. It was never designed to be in this narrow body car, but it's still still cool. But at this point all i can do is sit in this car and we'll dream about what it could be and now i'm waiting for the tow truck to come and pick this thing up and haul it up to the car wizards and hopefully get it running. It was running way too rich and that fouled out the spark plugs to why it wouldn't start on camera earlier. So hopefully we can get this motor running and assess its health, and then i can kind of make a decision on what i'm going to do.
I should also mention that i'm not going to use the wizard to completely restore this car. He doesn't restore cars, he's a mechanic, that's not a specialty. I'm gon na send it to a guy who has restored several of these cars to do it up and do it right and we're actually gon na go visit him this weekend, along with rob and urination bob and other people uh, because porsha palooza is going on. Where he lives in arkansas he's the one who organizes this and we can see a lot of cool cars and well, i can sort of decide what i'm going to do with this thing.
But it is a great orange blank canvas to start with, and even though it's porsche palooza, i'm taking my ferrari 456, because i'm taking the wife and the baby the baby can fit in the back. And this is the first family road trip in that car, which is what its purpose is supposed to be. So let's get the tow truck here and then we'll hit the road, but before we dive into helping me figure out what i'm going to do with this crazy porsche. I'd like to thank keeps for sponsoring this video two out of three guys will experience some form of male pattern baldness by the time, they're 35, and the best way to prevent hair loss is to do something about it.
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So obviously i have the cool porsche now, but uh it's not ready to go so i'm at porsche palooza in europe springs arkansas with my ferrari, 456 wearing a lamborghini sweatshirt, because i'm i'm that guy, but the guy that is going to be building. My car is here: he puts us on leonard here at porschepalooza how's it going hey, tyler good, to see you man we met earlier, and he gave me one of the broken head studs as a necklace he's got his matching uh smaller one mine's longer, but i'm Not sure what direction i'm gon na go with this car because it has lived a very interesting life and leonard uh he's been trying to buy it for not quite as long as me, but uh uh. He was working rob just as hard as i was and i guess i won but uh you went and i mean you still get to build the car and we can have this fun together and i mean i'm still involved and i feel good about it. You already got this these, but it's a disease that you know of yeah you just you look what you have all of these cars, but yet you look over there and you're like oh there's, another one and that's kind of the way.
I am right. I want to save all of them, so the direction to go. We could do a pretty faithful restoration to the car. It is a very special car, just as is if it were factory original, but obviously this thing's lived a crazy life.
Multiple engines raced um, the turbo engine. That's in it i mean it like that, keeping it going. Do you think? That's a good idea. You know if, if i would have gotten the car, what i would have done is something similar to this yeah, but in a narrow body like it always already had, because it is a valuable car right, i would have taken the turbo engine out.
I would have put a comparable engine back in similar to what i did on the green machine. Let's show me yeah, because this one has a modern 3.8 in it right. This is a 993 hot rodded 3.8, no, more injection yeah, which is going to bring people off. I know, but i'm about the hot rod side of the equation, more so than the getting in and starting when it's cold and hot side of the equation.
So i'm all about building something, that's fun for me, and i wanted to do what i want to do when i want to do it right so, but basically still a modern engine just with the old-school components, on top the transmission's uh out of the 903 as Well, no sir, it's a it's a 915 transmission. Oh so still the old one yeah, it's an 86 transmission. So this car is a wide body and it came when it came out. We didn't know if it was going to be a turbo or just an m491 option car, so it could have had the long bell, housing, transmission or the short. So there's two sets of mounts, so i had the luxury of swapping that out relatively easily on your car. You have a turbo engine in a narrow body and really to get the duct tail and to get it back proper. You probably want to lose the intercooler and probably something naturally aspirated in it, but still really peppy, because the duck tail on the narrow body it kind of sticks out it looks. Oh, it looks it's it's.
I think it's good right. Do you like it or no? I mean it's okay, but i mean that car was originally a ducktale car which so many people fake it. The fact that that was really originally a ducktale orange car it feels like it needs to have it so there's a duck tail over here yeah and i think the ducktail needs to go back on the car. The turbo tail is kind of out of place right, narrow body car.
So, in my opinion, if i were doing it, i would ditch the turbo tail and i would get the duck back on it. I'd probably ditch the turbo engine and i'd build something comparable but non-turbo, and that turbo engine's quite valuable right. The turbo engine is very available. I think we could sell that uh overseas pretty easily.
If you want to pocket some money and then put the money in another engine, i think we can do that, but those are choices you have to make. These are the difficult decisions, but these are both yours. This was actually a 9 30 beginning and end. I mean this.
Whole life has been a 9 30. Obviously this is a 79 90 30. That's an 84 930 d turboed with still with the turbo okay. So, rather than build this car twice, this got a different win, a different direction.
Well, so i met you a few years ago i was driving my sls. You were in the green machine taking us around on drives and that thing it ran out of rpm uh, but otherwise up until then, it was keeping up with the sls. I was right behind you and foot to the floor, the same power which is just insane. It's very lightweight: it doesn't make the power that your car makes, but it's very lightweight, it'll get there in a hurry but uh after about a hundred and 100 plus, it's time to back off in this car, where your car will just keep going to a couple Hundred, can i try it out? Absolutely, you can awesome.
Oh and it's just i mean this is kind of the interior i want. I don't know if i want the roll bar to go out of mine, though i mean it's just to keep with its racing history. You know because it was, it was a good wood and all that stuff, but something whatever you think something like this. I mean i don't want full race car in the inside, and this is just so nice. It's got to be something you got to be able to at least get in and out of yeah, so we'll put in neutral. Oh look at the shifter set up here. What's that so uh, this is some weevo and some smart racing pieces that i really like. Uh make it shift a little better uh which i've enjoyed on the old 915 huh.
Yes, sir 9, 15. yep. It doesn't feel like it. It's a little different with this shifter.
Now this is uh. It's kind of cold, there's no choke on this car. Okay, we have 46 millimeter weber, carburetors, there's no choke, no nothing. So it's going to warm up, there's no heater by the way, either in case your feet get cold, i'm all right, all right, we'll let it warm up and then we'll take it for a spin you're.
The first person second person to drive the green machine. Oh really yeah and the first person crashed it. No, it just hit a curb it's. It is weird because you can definitely tell that it's carbureted, but it doesn't feel old.
No, it doesn't feel too old. It's really the hot rod experience. Part of that has to be the sound that the car makes right, there's something to be said for the sound, not just the visual but the audio right, so you're, not a ti-can guy. I mean i drove one for the first time last night.
It was awesome. It was unbelievable, zero to 70 in, like one second but uh, it's a different, different experience, but a good experience anyway. This is more my scene. That'll.
Do i mean? Are you smiling yeah? I you know drove that rob's car. You know turbo car and other turbo cars and when the power hits it's hilarious in the lag, i'm sure like your turbo, but this is pretty instant not too far off on the power. Is it it's? Not it's pretty close. We can drive the black car back to back.
If you want, you can decide it's pretty pi, it's pretty close 123 dc yeah. Look at that! The guy that is the guy that runs the taxi service here, has about 40 of those and that's what he uses. Absolutely about three nine three porsches from him old ones and he's got mercedes everywhere, and i love this. I also hate to see the turbo motor go.
So maybe you guys can help me out in the comments section, which way should i go with orange crush? Should it be like this, or should it keep that turbo engine in there, which is just so crazy, but not really appropriate, but inappropriate, isn't necessarily bad? That's right, appropriate can be good. I don't know. Let me know. Thank you so much for watching new projects.
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Keep the Turbo, please, when will there be another chance without paying silly money?
Ditch the turbo. It wasn't meant for the car and you'd have to compromise to keep it in there.
There is no second opinion here, please bring the Carrera back to it's old glory. These early seventies Carreras are iconic cars and they have become rare. Restore this car to become a driveable vintage 911 Carrera again, keep the car, have it maintained and serviced by the car wizard and you will never regret it. It is crazy what that they did to this classic 911 Carrera, such an enormous engine in such a lean body is insane and makes the paint blister in the back. I think there is no guessing here what to do.
My vote is to swap out the turbo for a duel stage one to tame the lag. But that's just me.
Keep the turbo, keep the tail… just add some widebody fenders (probably will hurt the car value, but…. in these days, I'm not sure anymore)
I always liked the idea of a NA engine that can hang at 9k all day long over a turbo engine.
Swap the engine to something more street-able. Take some racing/driving lessons and race the mustang.
Keep the turbo and whale tail. Put a motec on it and redo the inside like the green car.
One of the things that made that car was the turbo. If it ran at Goodwood with the turbo, then why would you want to change it, if not then its up for grabs. I like the fact that is a real 930 turbo engine and it was something special, you and others truly wanted in its current form, so why change it?
In the end, you seem to always make the smart move and go the right direction, and once again you will do the same here. Be Blessed Brother…
If your heart is set on a ducktail then you have to ditch the turbo engine (intercooler won't fit). For you Tyler I think modern induction is the way to go, carbs are for the hardcore. Personally I would go with a 2.7L engine like the car had originally but upgrade the induction with EFI. I would also bump up to 2.8 / 2.9L with some new pistons and cylinders. 2.7L fits that car and are still very affordable even building it out. (make for some good videos!). Modern induction looks cool and will make you happy each morning when you go to start it. I'm building a 2.8L for 'The Canary' and I'm really enjoying the process. Good luck!! -Kav.
6.7 bi turbo cummins swap,turbo n1 will be near botoom of the engine sneaky, and the secont one will be looking from top of the hood in the back
Sell the Turbo and enjoy making the Orange one your own interpretation. Write the "next chapter" in it's story.
For simplicity purposes, I prefer his set up. Carbs are easy, simple and the car is still fun and not so overpowered as to cause issues on the track. A lot of the fun on the track is driving the car, learning its limits and a car that is more forgiving will be more fun then one that is high powered, but is finicky and much more challenging to drive.
I stand behind the turbo engine and the turbo spoiler. The ducktail is cool and since it originally came with the car as a ducktail, even cooler but appearance wise, the turbo spoiler looks 9000 times better, IMO. Even you said it has an elaborate history, I think you should stick with its elaborate history and do something elaborate – not go back in time to the ducktail or non turbo. But that’s my humble opinion.
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the turbo engine will be and is not the most reliable,,,, i would defo stick with the carb version and do the interior,
Id say NA probably, but another thought, just to be silly and different, you could put a centrifugal supercharger on it and have boost and linear power.